A Los Angeles SINGLE MOTHER (a pro at living off Workman's Comp) used a fertility clinic for the first 6 babies and just had 8 more for a total of 14. She lives on workman's comp, has used doctors to keep it going. (Back injury from when she worked in loony bin, in a scramble, a patient threw a table on her back.)
In the third world, babies are a form of SENIOR PENSION & HMO, which may answer the question "why do they have so many CHILDREN when they live in a hut?" It's simply 'thinking ahead'. Babies that grow up to be hard working adults are the poor man's Social Security Administration and Med-I-Care too. In the third world, all husbands agree. The more kids the merrier.
The L.A. Octuplets' mother claims she wanted a 'huge family' for that cozy feeling of connection and Ann Curry who interviewed her on her first day out of the obstetric ward, bought it. I don't. This woman does not look emotional or crazy. She looks very tough and smart. (her Picture above). The right hand on hip is a cocky stance for your facebook page. It tell us 'I'm on top of it, don't try to fool a fooler." The huge breasts (symbol of maternity and baby making in metaphysics) Are emphacized. Mommy material.
So when Nadya Suleman tells Ann Curry of NBC she wanted many children because of a dysfunctional childhood, read her exact words and you be the judge. Here is ONLINE ARTICLE:
"State workers compensation records reviewed by The Times show that Suleman had three miscarriages before finally giving birth. In 2001, she reported being depressed "with recurrent thoughts of death," according to the records." (well, that's what she told the doctors as she kept using fertility docs to get the first six, with gov paying for it.
She told a doctor that the depression was related to "the powerful and uncontrollable emotions associated with her pregnancy: both the fear that it would end and her elation that it might be brought to fruition and she would realize her dream of having a child."
In 1999, she was injured during a riot at Metropolitan State Hospital in Norwalk when she was hit in the back with a desk. She went on temporary disability and was paid nearly $170,000 in disability benefits between 2000 and 2008 for injuries to her back, neck and shoulder, the records show.
The mother of octuplets born last week in Bellflower told NBC News she wanted to have a "huge family" because she longed for personal connections she felt she lacked in her childhood.
"I just longed for certain connections and attachments with another person that I -- I really lacked, I believe, growing up," Nadya Suleman said in an interview today with NBC's Ann Curry. "Reflecting back on my childhood, I know it wasn't functional. It was pretty -- pretty dysfunctional, and whose isn't?"
Suleman said she had tried to become pregnant for seven years, including though artificial insemination, before going to an unnamed fertilization facility where she finally became pregnant. She had six other children before becoming pregnant with octuplets.
The full excerpt of the interview follows:
ANN CURRY: How did an only child end up with 14 children?
NADYA SULEMAN: That was always a dream of mine, to have a large family, a huge family, and -- I just longed for certain connections and attachments with another person that I -- I really lacked, I believe, growing up.
ANN CURRY: Describe what you felt you lacked within.
NADYA SULEMAN: Feeling of self and identity. I didn't feel as though, when I was a child, I had much control of my environment. I felt powerless. And that gave me a sense of predictability. I -- reflecting back on my childhood, I know it wasn't functional. It was pretty -- pretty dysfunctional, and whose isn't?
ANN CURRY: So, the first time when you tried to become pregnant, you actually had tried how many times before you were successful?
NADYA SULEMAN: Oh, boy. Well, I went through about seven years of trying. And -- through artificial insemination. And through medication. And all of which was unsuccessful. And then the first -- IVF procedure from that -- from that facility -- it was successful. And then I just kept going in."
Yes. I couldn't have just one potato chip. The old Twinkie defense. The Prozac Defense but that' NOT the reason Nadia kept going with ' industrial strength' baby making.The mercenary strategies and physical strength of this woman who's lived for a decade on Workman's Comp, (thusly staying free of any kind of employment and giving her time and CASH to be a PROFESSIONAL SINGLE MOTHER) shows up in her ability to keep public aid going for so many years. Ann Curry had NOT done her research. She never mentioned that feature of Nadia's life. I found mention of it on KFI-AM RADIO today, a talk show that read her medical records on the air.
I also FOUND MENTION of THIRD WORLD SENIOR PENSIONs earned by BABYMAKING. (story below.) Instinctively, we all know the anthropologist's description of the PENSION syndrome is accurate.
"When people from rich countries talk about poverty in the world, they generally make two comments about population. The first comment is that hunger happens because there are too many people in the world. The second comment is a question: If these people are so poor, why do they have so many kids? Let's have a close look at both these comments.
The first comment suggests that there is just not enough food in the world to feed all the people of the world. This is just not true. There is enough food. However, it is certainly true that more than 800 million people in the world are malnourished. Why, then, are so many people hungry?
There are a few answers to this one. The food in the world is not distributed fairly. We live in a world in which eighty per cent of the world's resources are used up by only twenty per cent of the world's people. This is just unfair. Recently a visitor from Bangladesh was shocked to see just how many shelves are devoted to pet food in Australian supermarkets
While nearly every country in the world has the capacity to grow sufficient food for its people, not every country in the world is able to do this. It may be because the country is suffering from flood or famine or war or corruption. It could also be because the subsistence crops that were traditionally grown to feed people have been replaced by luxury crops like coffee or pineapples. These are the crops that can be sold to rich countries in order to pay off the country's global debt.
The second comment is about poor families having lots of children. Why do people have big families if they are so poor? Poor people never ask this question. They know the answer. They know that having more children might be hard and cause them to be a little poorer, but they also know that having more children will actually help them survive.
How come? Well, in many countries of the majority world (that part of the world we used to call 'the third world' or the 'developing world') there is no such thing as social security or any kind of assistance from the government. Social security is more likely to be found in rich countries like Australia, which collect taxes and use them for the common good. When taxation is fair, it is a good way to share the goods of the earth.
However, many poor countries cannot set up a taxation system like ours, one of the reasons being the impact of that global debt which we mentioned before. Therefore, there is no such thing as family payments or unemployment benefits or old age pensions. Every family member, even children, work to support their families. In this way, a large family could be better off than a family with only one child. Children can work in the fields and help to grow food. Children can gather vegetables or sell food at the market. Children can collect water from the wells, collect firewood, or go on errands. In many instance, children work in the sweatshops, or in the sex industry. As terrible as this is, the income from children's work helps the family to survive.
People in the majority world (the poor world) are more likely to have large families because children often die from hunger or disease. In some countries one child out of five dies before it reaches the age of five. Parents then choose to have more children. Also, in many poor countries adult children are responsible for looking after their elderly parents. There are no pensions for old people and there are no nursing homes for the aged. Old people live with their families until they die. It is a fact of life that children are needed to support their parents when they are old.
It is true that some countries are concerned that they have too many people. It is also true that some countries are concerned that they do not have enough people. In the last few weeks, Australian politicians have spent a great deal of time trying to work out a way to encourage Australians to have more children. Sometimes the problem is population density. Too many people in the one place, not enough people in another place. Even then the answer is complex. Some countries that are densely populated have a higher standard of living than a less crowded country. Just think of Hong Kong, a wealthy country and very densely populated.
What needs to be done? When something is done about the unequal the distribution of the earth's resources, then food will be available to everyone, not just to the rich. When parents are confident that all their children will live, they will choose to have smaller families.
When governments are not forced to focus on repayment of debts to the
rich, then they can spend money on improving life for their people. When
the lives of women improve and there is universal education for the girl
child, then it will be possible for people to choose to have fewer children.
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